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hi career sighted I'm Jeff giesemann and
 

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hi career sighted I'm Jeff giesemann and
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I'm a carpenter a carpenter is basically
 

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I'm a carpenter a carpenter is basically
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somebody who works with wood I want to
 

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somebody who works with wood I want to
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refer myself sometimes as a wood doctor
 

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refer myself sometimes as a wood doctor
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I can do a house from the ground up it's
 

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I can do a house from the ground up it's
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all boxes and then whatever you want to
 

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all boxes and then whatever you want to
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do on the outside it's not set hours you
 

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do on the outside it's not set hours you
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get hired but first by the hour but
 

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get hired but first by the hour but
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mostly each phase gets contracted out
 

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mostly each phase gets contracted out
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they call it a piece worker and
 

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they call it a piece worker and
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everything on a house is by the square
 

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everything on a house is by the square
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foot where your pay fluctuates by the
 

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foot where your pay fluctuates by the
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faster you work the more money you make
 

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faster you work the more money you make
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if you were to do framing if you just
 

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if you were to do framing if you just
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want to do walls you could just frame
 

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want to do walls you could just frame
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walls and then there's roofers that just
 

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walls and then there's roofers that just
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do it the framing of the roof each and
 

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do it the framing of the roof each and
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every day it's something different
 

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every day it's something different
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houses just like cars that something
 

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houses just like cars that something
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wears out somebody asks me to say
 

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wears out somebody asks me to say
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replace the door then I have to do the
 

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replace the door then I have to do the
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trim you know because the trim surrounds
 

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trim you know because the trim surrounds
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the door it's oh can you do this and
 

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the door it's oh can you do this and
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keep that in and I end up doing more
 

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keep that in and I end up doing more
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stuff for them and most of my work is
 

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stuff for them and most of my work is
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from referrals as a carpenter I can work
 

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from referrals as a carpenter I can work
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anywhere in the world there's always
 

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anywhere in the world there's always
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work anybody can do it you have to be
 

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work anybody can do it you have to be
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able to use tools and there's dangerous
 

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able to use tools and there's dangerous
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tools you just got to learn how to do it
 

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tools you just got to learn how to do it
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the right way the most important thing
 

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the right way the most important thing
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in construction is math there's formulas
 

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in construction is math there's formulas
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in building a house you look at a house
 

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in building a house you look at a house
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with a roof system on it there's very
 

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with a roof system on it there's very
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complicated there's hips and Gables and
 

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complicated there's hips and Gables and
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valleys but it's all related to math
 

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valleys but it's all related to math
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growing up I used to go to buildings
 

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growing up I used to go to buildings
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that were under construction and I would
 

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that were under construction and I would
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pick up the nails or the piece of wood
 

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pick up the nails or the piece of wood
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bring them home and start hammering and
 

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bring them home and start hammering and
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stuff and actually built like a little
 

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stuff and actually built like a little
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fork my brother and I when we were
 

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fork my brother and I when we were
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growing up when I was like 13 or 14
 

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growing up when I was like 13 or 14
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that's what got me interested in
 

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that's what got me interested in
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instruction from when I was a kid and
 

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instruction from when I was a kid and
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doing the director sets and stuff like
 

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doing the director sets and stuff like
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that I go well you know what maybe if I
 

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that I go well you know what maybe if I
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go to school and become a carpenter I
 

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go to school and become a carpenter I
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can go build my own house and then then
 

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can go build my own house and then then
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you could build it any way you want to
 

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you could build it any way you want to
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and that's what I did there was a city
 

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and that's what I did there was a city
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college but they had a course where you
 

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college but they had a course where you
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you actually hands-on build a house on
 

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you actually hands-on build a house on
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campus and you had your class for two
 

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campus and you had your class for two
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hours and then for two or three hours
 

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hours and then for two or three hours
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you'd go out there and build up to the
 

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you'd go out there and build up to the
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house after the two-year program was
 

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house after the two-year program was
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done the house would be completed
 

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done the house would be completed
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because each semester they would do a
 

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because each semester they would do a
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certain phase of it might have been like
 

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certain phase of it might have been like
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20 students all the students did all the
 

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20 students all the students did all the
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the best experience you can get is
 

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the best experience you can get is
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on-the-job training while I was working
 

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on-the-job training while I was working
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on jobs people would always come and say
 

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on jobs people would always come and say
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do you have any work for us
 

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do you have any work for us
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you always have to enter something at
 

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you always have to enter something at
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the bottom and at the bottom in
 

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the bottom and at the bottom in
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construction is being a labor so labor
 

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construction is being a labor so labor
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you know you have to go get tools and
 

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you know you have to go get tools and
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clean up the job and but you actually
 

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clean up the job and but you actually
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what happens is you learn things as you
 

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what happens is you learn things as you
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do those jobs depending on how good you
 

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do those jobs depending on how good you
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are as far as math and working with
 

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are as far as math and working with
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tools you could Excel really fast it's
 

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tools you could Excel really fast it's
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fun I mean you become friends with
 

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fun I mean you become friends with
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everybody I grew up with the rector set
 

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everybody I grew up with the rector set
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some models putting stuff together and
 

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some models putting stuff together and
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how is it just a big version of it so
 

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how is it just a big version of it so
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it's great it's great I mean and you get
 

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it's great it's great I mean and you get
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paid for it
 

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